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when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on harassing e-mails. >>> new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, they dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several money drops. what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, scott del kelley, were battling a bank in court because the bank says they weren't paying their mortgage. the red brick house we've been showing on tampa's exclusive bay shore drive, purchased in 2004 for 1$1.5 million. four years later, regions bank filed to foreclose on the kell kelleys, because the bank said they hadn't sent in a mortgage pay
when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on harassing e-mails. >>> new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eri
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find...
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the senate judiciary committee, chuck grassley is now asking the justice department as well as the fbi to provide all the names of the individuals who were involved in the investigation into the cia director and also, those who signed off on the court orders that gave investigators access to his e-mail account, eric. >> thank you very much, catherine herridge. representative peter king, member of the house intelligence committee who was in the closed door hearing and questioned david petraeus directly, spoke about what he heard from petraeus. >> i had a very different recollection of what he told us on september 14th. he barely mentioned terrorism at that time. he deemphasized it, he emphasized the video, he emphasized spontaneous demonstration and as far as the terrorist questions, he really minimized it totally. and also on the talking points, megan, which came from the cia, the famous talking points that supposedly susan rice relied on, they said talk came from cia, specifically mentioned al-qaeda and that al-qaeda was involved in the attack. and they left the cia, went to a whole p
the senate judiciary committee, chuck grassley is now asking the justice department as well as the fbi to provide all the names of the individuals who were involved in the investigation into the cia director and also, those who signed off on the court orders that gave investigators access to his e-mail account, eric. >> thank you very much, catherine herridge. representative peter king, member of the house intelligence committee who was in the closed door hearing and questioned david...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi -- everybody there was asked, do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> reporter: democratic senator dianne feinstein said on "meet the press" anybody that brings weapons and mortars and rpgs is a terroranist my view, i mean, that's pretty clear. unquote. republicans maintain that miles per hour between the issuance of the cia talking points and susan rice's appearance on the sunday talk show, the wording of the talking points was changed to eliminate any reference to any specific terrorist group or terrorrive attack. bow friday, deputy national security advisers ben rose, told reporter, quoting now-- the only edit that was made by the white house and by the state department was to change the word consulate to the word diplomatic facility. bottom line, someone is being very, very loose with the facts there. hillary clinton has agreed to testify. former director petraeus may again tes
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi -- everybody there was asked, do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> reporter: democratic senator dianne feinstein said on "meet the press" anybody that brings weapons and mortars and rpgs is a terroranist my view, i mean, that's pretty clear. unquote. republicans...
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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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they passed the information on to the fbi here. there's definitely some real questions about what was the motivation of that fbi agent in reporting that. >> what it comes down with the house and senate intel committee going to vet all of this with hearings, we're going to find out that the right wing is early terribly wrong or they were onto something? that's the way it's going to come down. >> and that maybe the investigation and everything that happened happened the way -- just as a reminder, the protocols in place at the department of justice, he reminded everybody of that under george bush. >> yes, he did. karen finney, thank you. there's a lot more in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay right with us. >> is traditional america gone for good? >> the mayor of cable news cannot believe white men are losing their grip on power. mike and joan will break down his latest tirade. >> mr. obama won the woman vote, blacks and asians but the hispanic vote really nailed romney. it was an entitlement vote this year. >> get up kriss kr
they passed the information on to the fbi here. there's definitely some real questions about what was the motivation of that fbi agent in reporting that. >> what it comes down with the house and senate intel committee going to vet all of this with hearings, we're going to find out that the right wing is early terribly wrong or they were onto something? that's the way it's going to come down. >> and that maybe the investigation and everything that happened happened the way -- just as...
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the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the moffett cancer center who was in the military community. she was on the social roster, she was on the socom that's special operations command social roster. she jumped with the parajumpers in a tan done jump. she attended the admiral's parties and affairs and so on. that's who she is in that context. >> rose: so she went to the cyber whatever the name was and then they began to look a h e-mails and who she received e-mails from and from that they found e-mails having to do with general john allen. >> right one of the ways you do a case, all right let's see who is sending the harass
the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the moffett...
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if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by the summer, and they actually interviewed petraeus and his paramour broadwell for the second time in september or october. wouldn't they have an obligation to tell the president? >> well, listen. the fbi works with the department of justice and eric holder stated he was aware of the investigation. >> why didn't holder tell the president? >> that i can't answer you. i can tell you that bob muller is a very ethical man, a very good man. >> i have to agree with you, pat. >> no doubt in my mind that they advised the attorney general. why the attorney general did not advise the president i think we need to
if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by...
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>> the fbi and other bodies in the united states are engaged in law enforcement measures. we need that as a first resource. >> jennifer: are you comfortable at least that talks with respect to hamas and israel have at least begun in terms of a cease fire? but it hasn't worked. >> unfortunately, human history is replete with incident of violence escalation of violence and warfare and we don't deny that there are situations where the united states has legitimate basis of using the force. we haven't declared war on pakistan, though. >> jennifer: of course not but if you have had high-level al-qaeda targets, and a drone can take out that target instead of risking u.s. lives, don't you think that is not a bad thing? >> let me answer your question by giving a broader context, what the studies show is the vast majority of drone strikes don't hit those high-level targets. the majority of those kills are much lower-level operatives or civilians, and one of the things we need to think about is what happens when the united states is killing hundreds of people in northwest pakistan. h
>> the fbi and other bodies in the united states are engaged in law enforcement measures. we need that as a first resource. >> jennifer: are you comfortable at least that talks with respect to hamas and israel have at least begun in terms of a cease fire? but it hasn't worked. >> unfortunately, human history is replete with incident of violence escalation of violence and warfare and we don't deny that there are situations where the united states has legitimate basis of using...
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how normal is it for the fbi to investigate the cia? >> well, if they think there's some sort of crime that's occurred and in my limited understanding of what happened, this began because someone had a belief that general petraeus's computer had been compromised which led to the next step. the fbi does crime, not the cia. this is the proper course to take. and again transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. this is tough. you and i know both know it. for a general who has done so much for this nation. i think this showed what kind of a man he was that he did his soul searching, but he handed in his resignation because that's what we're trained to do and people should take a lesson on that. >> joe, good to have you with us on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of lay yufs. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the reelection of our first african-american president. msnbc politica
how normal is it for the fbi to investigate the cia? >> well, if they think there's some sort of crime that's occurred and in my limited understanding of what happened, this began because someone had a belief that general petraeus's computer had been compromised which led to the next step. the fbi does crime, not the cia. this is the proper course to take. and again transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. this is tough. you and i know both know it. for a...
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allen allegedly exchanged hundreds of flirtatious e-mails with jill kelley who alerted the fbi when she received harassing e-mails from paula broadwell. and don't order yet. there is more. fox confirms the agent she notified and who triggered the investigation was removed from the case because of his behavior which included sending shirtless photos of himself to kelley. "red eye" acquired a taper portedly of the agent. can we see that? >> owe. >> will you quit? >> owe indeed. diane, as the scandal widens, is anyone safe? i feel like i am going to be dragged into it. >> it doesn't bowed well that the leader of one of the greatest intelligence agencies in the world can't send off a few shady e-mails without blowing his cover. >> do you think the cia -- the sheen is off it basically. >> i still don't understand why this forces resignation, necessarily. they said the main issue was being vulnerable to black mail. if you tell the whole world it mitigates that. like i said, it doesn't bowed well for a spy agency. >> interesting. it is only woman on our panel thinks it is okay. he shouldn't be
allen allegedly exchanged hundreds of flirtatious e-mails with jill kelley who alerted the fbi when she received harassing e-mails from paula broadwell. and don't order yet. there is more. fox confirms the agent she notified and who triggered the investigation was removed from the case because of his behavior which included sending shirtless photos of himself to kelley. "red eye" acquired a taper portedly of the agent. can we see that? >> owe. >> will you quit? >>...
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intelligence official, but it is unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date, so it has been going on for several months it seems and now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it does not add up. >> reporter: among the other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner? the house and the senate intelligence committees were not informed until friday. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi did not notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think that we should have been told. >> reporter: not everyone on the hill was totally in the dark. house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi employee told him about petraeus' affair and a possible security breach in october after the investigation had begun. a u.s. official says that the general's communications were never compromised and he was never the target of the investigation. another issue
intelligence official, but it is unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date, so it has been going on for several months it seems and now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it does not add up. >> reporter: among the other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner? the house and the senate...
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but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here, then, that an outsider could have access, quite simply, to sensitive information and intelligence? >> well, that is the concern when it starts. but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems so that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers. and then of course, you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate. but t
but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and...
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this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this affair, would have used it as blackmail against petraeus to get our biggest secrets, and that's why with the security clearance you are not supposed to compromise yourself in this way. >> let me go to the congressman. so the fbi director had to know. he meets with the president. eric holder had to know, he meets with the president. we are saying a cia director that is involved in a compromising situation that's correct that was not brought to the attention of the president? what if it wasn't? is that not dereliction of duty in is that not incompetence on that part? if the president did know, what doe
this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this...
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the fbi says that no one was hit. they're also not saying who fired the shots. one woman was transported for a minor injury that was unrelated to the shooting and has since been released. the fbi will not say what the search warrant was for. >>> someone stole mike shanahan's passport and also some money. this happened two weeks ago while the redskins were in pittsburgh playing the steelers. there's no word on how much money was taken. the money and passport was stolen from shanahan's locker at the heinz field. >>> three people were killed after hamas fired rockets into israel. they are the latest fatalities of the latest e conflict to hit the coastal region. five others were injured in that attack. >>> president obama is visiting new york city today. he's getting an update from local officials on superstorm sandy's recovery efforts and the cities most outer burro. randall pinkston talked to staten island residents about the visit. >> reporter: rudy is glad the president is looking at the damage. some relates say fema and private groups have not done enough to ge
the fbi says that no one was hit. they're also not saying who fired the shots. one woman was transported for a minor injury that was unrelated to the shooting and has since been released. the fbi will not say what the search warrant was for. >>> someone stole mike shanahan's passport and also some money. this happened two weeks ago while the redskins were in pittsburgh playing the steelers. there's no word on how much money was taken. the money and passport was stolen from shanahan's...